Not Your Average Netizens

Love Yourself In Saudi Arabia

It’s another un-regularly scheduled episode of Not Your Average Netizens, the K-pop podcast that might not be there when you want it, but is always right on time. This recording is full of our hot takes on BTS in Saudi Arabia, K-pop’s special VMA category and foreigners infiltrating the Korean pop space. Plus – SM kingpin Lee Sooman or GOT7’s Mark? The answer will surprise you.
Timestamps:
Top is back! 0:42
Foreigners in kpop 4:16 - 36:47
Does Kpop sound more western now? 17:50
What makes K-pop special? 20:55
It's not our fight 26:19
Monsta X in the limelight 36:47
Idol Woes 41:48
Big Hits, Big Mistakes 58:22
Saudi Arabia 1:01:24
Here's your VMA K-pop, now sit in the corner 1:09:30
Prince Jimin? Or rare instances where colorblind casting is bad 1:18:40
A message for Shinwha fans 1:32:20
Shoutouts 1:37:32
Intro&Outro:
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The Wild World of K-pop Fanfiction

Welcome to Not Your Average Netizens' first K-pop Fandom Forum, special episodes devoted to discussing topical issues related to K-pop in all its intricacies. And we decided, why not start off our first episode with one of our fave topics - fanfiction! Yes, fanfiction has pushed its way out of the dark corners of fandom to become widely recognized as a powerful creative force in fan communities. K-pop fanfics, in particular, have grown more numerous; but is that healthy for the fandom? Is writing about famous idols an invasion of their privacy or an acceptable creative outlet for their admirers? We discuss these issues, as well as reveal what our favorite fanfictions are and you'll find out if any of the NYAN podcasters is writing Bangtan novels on the low. Join us for another fun debate, and tell us in the comments if you read K-pop, what kind, and where!
Timestamps:
What do we think of fanfic? 4:17
Do you read Kpop fanfic? 38:00
Trends in Kpop Fanfic 1:01:00
K-fic Review 1:24:00
Our Fanfic Dos and Don'ts 1:35:30
How important is the story? 1:41:56
K-fic by ifans and kfans 1:43:00
What if we wrote our own? 1:48:18
K-fic recs 1:56:10
End 2:00:41
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B.I., Big Hit, and Black K-pop Fan Backlash Part 2

It’s the darkest K-pop timeline as we discuss the complete dissolution of the Greek tragedy that is YG Entertainment on this episode of Not Your Average Netizens. It’s a trash fire of such immense magnitude that we needed TWO episodes to talk about it! Is B.I. a misunderstood genius and will YG get away with all his shady activity (probably)? In part two, we continue the lighthearted discourse as we delve into issues of K-pop and colorism (that will likely be covered again). Is being a fan worth it when you have to constantly check to see if idols are “problematic” and have to rationalize the prejudiced that continues to occur? We discuss.
Also on the docket: idols and LGBTQ rights, flat earther idols, K-fans vs. I-fans, the treatment of girl groups and Big Hit… just Big Hit.
Pull up a chair, enjoy your car ride, or distract yourself from the monotony of work with some good K-pop conversation.
Timestamps below:
Part One:
Was Monsta X's support of gay fan sincere? 2:59
Sunmi had 24 hours to cancel her coming out party 12:23
If you support The Boyz, you support flat earthers...just sayin 29:01
The loonatics are at it again 38:08
Sulli Says 'Bye' to the haters 47:44
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out Ravi. 59:23
Pristin...we hardly knew ye 1:07:35
Hyolyn's Bullying Scandal 1:24:56
B.I.'s Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day 1:29:24
Part Two:
It's YG's World We're Just Living In It 0:00
Big Hit's Gonna Make You Do Their Homework (And you're gonna enjoy it) 21:49
K-Fans and I-Fans, the eternal battle 37:41
Colorism in K-pop 46:47
End 1:17:35

B.I., Big Hit, and Black K-pop Fan Backlash Part 1

It’s the darkest K-pop timeline as we discuss the complete dissolution of the Greek tragedy that is YG Entertainment on this episode of Not Your Average Netizens. It’s a trash fire of such immense magnitude that we needed TWO episodes to talk about it! Is B.I. a misunderstood genius and will YG get away with all his shady activity (probably)? In part two, we continue the lighthearted discourse as we delve into issues of K-pop and colorism (that will likely be covered again). Is being a fan worth it when you have to constantly check to see if idols are “problematic” and have to rationalize the prejudice that continues to occur? We discuss.
Also on the docket: idols and LGBTQ rights, flat earther idols, K-fans vs. I-fans, the treatment of girl groups and Big Hit… just Big Hit.
Pull up a chair, enjoy your car ride, or distract yourself from the monotony of work with some good K-pop conversation.
Timestamps below:
Part One:
Was Monsta X's support of gay fan sincere? 2:59
Sunmi had 24 hours to cancel her coming out party 12:23
If you support The Boyz, you support flat earthers...just sayin 29:01
The loonatics are at it again 38:08
Sulli Says 'Bye' to the haters 47:44
Don't let the door hit ya on the way out Ravi. 59:23
Pristin...we hardly knew ye 1:07:35
Hyolyn's Bullying Scandal 1:24:56
B.I.'s Terrible Horrible No Good Very Bad Day 1:29:24
Part Two:
It's YG's World We're Just Living In It 0:00
Big Hit's Gonna Make You Do Their Homework (And you're gonna enjoy it) 21:49
K-Fans and I-Fans, the eternal battle 37:41
Colorism in K-pop 46:47
End 1:17:35

We Don’t Need Your Clout

Not Your Average Netizens is back and it feels so good! We go deep into the psychological aspects of K-pop this episode, as we ponder the mental state of an idol – how does one deal with the stress, the pressure, the lies, the crazy ass fans? By eating your bandmate’s ear apparently. Join us for another spirited conversation, and don’t forget to like and subscribe if you enjoy our content!
Timestamps:
What we've been listening to 1:20
Comebacks and MVs 11:30
Disbandments 25:50
Monsta X on We Bare Bears 38:00
NTCzens be crazy 45:41
Living the lie 1:03:41
BTS is everywhere and nowhere 1:14:17
Kpop will make you sweat 1:26:21
Some people never learn 1:31:00
Intro/Outro: GOT7 - ECLIPSE (BAMBEAST REMIX)

Shinee On the Cusp Of Blackpink

Fixed!
Hello, NYANers and NYANettes (ignore me it’s the lack of sleep talking)! Another week means another podcast as the NYAN crew come together once again to pontificate for another thought-provoking K-pop discussion! This week we wade into some interesting waters, as we consider Micky Yoochun’s place in the K-pop universe, and YG’s mounting PR troubles with a small side stroke into Kpop astrology just because. Come on in, the water’s fine.
We had fun this episode.
Timestamps
1:24 How much are you willing to pay for Kcon?
4:53 What is NYAN Listening To
8:11 NYAN Fantasy Tournament: We give into our competitive sides and the rules change. Once. Or twice.
27:23 The saga of Toliet Yoochun
35:32 BTA and baby bonnets – seriously what is wrong with y’ all?
46:16 Is YG still part of the big three?
1:00:08 Where for art thou, Jay Park?
1:09:18 NCT takes over the world – maybe
1:15:42 We discuss the finer points of K-pop Astrology
1:27:40 Shoutouts, Comments, Goodbyes, Game of Thrones detour (courtesy of Jemin)
Intro and Outro: BLACKPINK - Kill This Love (CBznar Remix)

Kill This Boy With Love

We’re back to our regularly(?) scheduled programming!. And just in time for the 2019 K-pop invasion of America, as western music execs try their damndest to make BTS and Blackpink happen in the USA. Can these artists truly advance in the industry, or will they just be a fad, used for clicks and likes until the next One Direction comes along? We have an in-depth discussion and try to get to the core of the issue.
Also, catch our live Blackpink Coachella commentary on Youtube! : http://bit.ly/2IQVhi5
Timestamps Below:
1:40 K-pop fantasy tournament update: Which team is leading the pack?
12:20 What music, K-pop/non-K-pop, is NYAN listening to?
24:30 BTS/Blackpink: What is the measure of success for a K-pop star in this day and age?
1:07:40 Closing
Intro/Outro Music: TWICE (트와이스) - FANCY [Remix] by Bass Dropper

NYAN Rewind: Let the Kpop Games Begin

This ep is a blast to the fairly recent past as Ashe leader-nim has been overwhelmed with personal obligations as of late, and while we enjoy working on NYAN, it’s also a pretty small operation - so we’ve had all-hands-on-deck to get our backlog out to you and get the podcast train back on schedule!
We appreciate everyone who continues to listen and support our program as we soldier on, and we are bringing you some special projects and creative ventures to show our appreciation!
Definitely check out the draft for our (well it’s Jemin’s baby) Kpop Fantasy Tournament – it’s like fantasy football, except with the twisted fandom politics we all know and love. More info about the tournament will be forthcoming.
WARNING: Due to the time period in which this was recorded (namely before the crap hit the fan), positive feelings about Seungri are briefly expressed. Again, this was done BEFORE Burning Seungri.
Timestamps:
1:25 Idol tours- which active/disbanded group would you like to see tour
17:00 BlackPink’s American debut on GMA/ the differences between American and Korean TV performances
30:40 Dreamcatcher catches these dreadlocks aka another day another Kpop microaggression- how we can do better?
46:50 CLC “NO”-pes out of nugudom with their first music show wins
53:50 All the comebacks (from 3-4 weeks ago)! ITZY, Taemin, Hwasa, Loona, Park Bom(upcoming),
1:09:00 Jackson’s shenanigans across America
1:12:00 The draft for the first annual NYAN Kpop Fantasy Tournament will commence! We pick our teams while engaging in some dirty underhanded tactics a more than a few fandoms would be familiar with
1:46:00 Shoutouts
1:47:00 end
Music: ATEEZ - Say My Name D3VOK Remix

Burning Seungri

It seems like everyone else has chimed in on the Burning Sun controversy, so guess we'll put our hat in the ring. On this episode of Not Your Average Netiznes, we discuss what this scandal means for the future of Seungri, Big Bang, YG and K-pop itself.
There were some issues with audio this episode towards the beginning. We apologize, and if it's too much of a nuisance, fast forward about 10 minutes or so.
Opening/Closing: Seungri - Strong Baby[Insane Remix] by Buddhaho
If you have questions, comments, or just want to yell at us, hit us up at notyouraveragenetizens@gmail.com

The Secret Life of A Kpop Journalist

We're not done with the marathon-length podcasts yet! Our special guest for this episode is Billboard Magazine's Kpop journalist, Tamar Herman! Find out how YOU can turn your uber-psychotic love of Kpop into a career. Trust us, we were taking notes. We also talk about BTS, Blackpink, post-disbandment Wanna One and Jay Park's inability to stay out of some shit.
Timestamps:
1:00 Tamar Herman Interview
1:03:48 BTS and Blackpink in America: Do girl groups get a fair shake in the west?
1:30:00 Who does NYAN stan?
1:39:49 What the hell Jay Park Part Deux
2:14:12. Comebacks: Seventeen, Wanna One, CLC, WayV
2:48:14.Taemin is an adorable interviewee who’ll spam you with English videos
2:52:26 Shoutouts
2:54:20 Closing